{"id":896,"date":"2007-05-14T11:58:13","date_gmt":"2007-05-14T15:58:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/14\/amazonca-british-books-what-the-hell\/"},"modified":"2008-08-03T22:56:54","modified_gmt":"2008-08-04T02:56:54","slug":"amazonca-british-books-what-the-hell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/14\/amazonca-british-books-what-the-hell\/","title":{"rendered":"Amazon.ca, British Books, What The Hell?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ever since <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\">Amazon.ca<\/a> opened, I&#8217;ve been in a kind of book-buyer&#8217;s bliss. The Canadian variant of Amazon has a broader selection than native <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chapters.indigo.ca\">Chapters<\/a>, and typically has lower prices&#8211;all good stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Even better, though, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\">Amazon.ca<\/a> put me in a position to leverage my special status as a Canadian lover of books: we can get both American and British editions from local distributors. And, with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\">Amazon.ca<\/a>, I was in a position to easily get British hard covers at a substantial discount without paying any international shipping. Since I fairly regularly (at least several times a year) want to get a British hardcover&#8211;when either there will be no North American hard cover, or the North American one will be significantly later in publication&#8211;this is a big plus.<\/p>\n<p>At least it was until just recently. I don&#8217;t know what happened, but suddenly British hard covers are ridiculously expensive.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2007\/05\/Selling%20Out.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox\" title=\"Justina Robson - Selling Out, British HC\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2007\/05\/_Selling%20Out.jpg\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" alt=\"Selling Out\" title=\"Selling Out\" class=\"alignleft\" \/><\/a>An example: I just got an email from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\">Amazon.co.uk<\/a> notifying me that I can now pre-order <a href=\"http:\/\/justina.inphi.net\/\">Justina Robson<\/a>&#8216;s latest novel <a href=\"http:\/\/justina.inphi.net\/Books\/Book.aspx?Name=Quantum%20Gravity:%20Selling%20Out\">Selling Out<\/a> (sequel to <a href=\"http:\/\/justina.inphi.net\/Books\/Book.aspx?Name=Quantum%20Gravity:%20Keeping%20It%20Real\">Keep It Real<\/a>, which I <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2006\/07\/19\/keeping-it-real\/\">discussed at some length earlier<\/a>). I immediately grabbed the ISBN from the Amazon.co.uk page, popped over to Amazon.ca and searched for the book. And <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Selling-Out-Justina-Robson\/dp\/0575078634\/\">there it is<\/a>. For <strong>FORTY-TWO<\/strong> freaking dollars, and no discount&#8211;I&#8217;m kind of used to at least a 30% discount from Amazon, and often 40%. (A comparable hardcover&#8211;at least in terms of size\/audience\/publisher&#8211;work, say <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Resolution-John-Meaney\/dp\/1591024374\">John Meaney&#8217;s Resolution<\/a>, from Justina&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pyrsf.com\/\">North American publisher<\/a> lists at Amazon.ca for less than $20 after discount. That&#8217;s roughly where I expect new hardcovers to be at Amazon.ca.)<\/p>\n<p>So, what&#8217;s up with that? I should totally write Amazon a letter.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the kicker. At <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Selling-Out-Quantum-Gravity-Gollancz\/dp\/0575078634\">Amazon.co.uk the book lists for \u00a312.53<\/a>, which is (<a href=\"http:\/\/ca.finance.yahoo.com\/currency\/convert?amt=12.53&#038;from=GBP&#038;to=CAD&#038;submit=Convert\">at today&#8217;s exchange rate<\/a>) about $27.50 Canadian. So it&#8217;s not only that the book isn&#8217;t discounted, it&#8217;s that Amazon.ca has marked it up $15, or to look at it even more offensively, <strong>55%<\/strong>, from the price at Amazon.co.uk. It is significantly cheaper for me to order the book from the UK and pay international shipping&#8211;surely this is madness?<\/p>\n<p>(Of course I don&#8217;t really have an alternative if I want the hard cover&#8211;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.chapters.indigo.ca\/books\/search?keywords=0575078634&#038;pageSize=10\">Chapters doesn&#8217;t carry the book<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/s\/ref=nb_ss_gw\/002-0576824-1592052?url=search-alias%3Daps&#038;field-keywords=0575078634&#038;Go.x=0&#038;Go.y=0&#038;Go=Go\">US Amazon doesn&#8217;t carry the book<\/a>, and if I wait and try to buy it on the after market I&#8217;m going to pay through the nose. Amazon.ca&#8217;s cheapest seller for the first volume HC is around $80, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.abebooks.com\/servlet\/SearchResults?tn=keeping+it+real&#038;an=justina+robson&#038;bi=h&#038;y=8&#038;x=92\">ABE&#8217;s North American copies<\/a> start at $50 before shipping.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2007\/05\/Ink.jpg\" rel=\"lightbox\" title=\"Ink - Hal Duncan\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-content\/images\/2007\/05\/_Ink.jpg\" width=\"193\" height=\"300\" alt=\"Ink\" title=\"Ink\" class=\"alignright\" \/><\/a>It&#8217;s not just Robson. I just went through the same thing with <a href=\"http:\/\/notesfromthegeekshow.blogspot.com\/\">Hal Duncan<\/a>&#8216;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sfsite.com\/05a\/nk247.htm\">Ink<\/a>. When <a href=\"http:\/\/www.randomhouse.com\/delrey\/catalog\/display.pperl?isbn=9780345487315\">Vellum<\/a> came out, I ordered <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Vellum-Book-All-Hours-1\/dp\/1405052082\">the British HC<\/a> from Amazon.ca. It cost me $24.39&#8211;it&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Vellum-Book-All-Hours-1\/dp\/1405052082\">still listed now<\/a> at the slightly better $23.28 after a 37% discount. So, naturally, I wanted to get the followup also in hardcover, and expected to pay roughly the amount. Except, guess what? Ink has no discount, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Ink-Hal-Duncan\/dp\/1405052090\">runs $40+<\/a>. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.co.uk\/Ink-Book-All-Hours-Bk\/dp\/1405052090\/\">Ink hardcover at Amazon.co.uk<\/a> is \u00a311.17 which <a href=\"http:\/\/ca.finance.yahoo.com\/currency\/convert?amt=11.17&#038;from=GBP&#038;to=CAD&#038;submit=Convert\">works out<\/a> to $24.50CAN.)<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s not all British HCs, though. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.ca\/Bone-Song-John-Meaney\/dp\/057507955X\">The British HC of John Meaney&#8217;s latest<\/a>, for example, is offered at the sort of price I expect.<\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s got to be something going on behind the scenes to drive this. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll eventually find out some distributor went belly-up, and suddenly half the British books (at least the SF ones) look to Amazon&#8217;s computer like small press \/ special order titles, or something. I wish I knew what it was, so I would know how to get around it.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m definitely writing them a letter. And in the meantime, I guess I&#8217;m queueing up stuff to order from the UK, so that I can minimize shipping costs.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p class=\"excerpt\">Ever since Amazon.ca opened, I&#8217;ve been in a kind of book-buyer&#8217;s bliss. The Canadian variant of Amazon has a broader selection than native Chapters, and typically has lower prices&#8211;all good stuff. Even better, though, Amazon.ca put me in a position to leverage my special status as a Canadian lover of books: we can get both American and British editions from&hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2007\/05\/14\/amazonca-british-books-what-the-hell\/\">Read more &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[8],"tags":[64,458,62,265,325,99],"class_list":["post-896","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-books","tag-amazon","tag-books","tag-cross-border","tag-economics","tag-justina-robson","tag-things-to-buy","xfolkentry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5UQvw-es","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/896","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=896"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/896\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1375,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/896\/revisions\/1375"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=896"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=896"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=896"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}