{"id":1745,"date":"2008-10-24T23:16:10","date_gmt":"2008-10-25T03:16:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/?p=1745"},"modified":"2008-10-24T23:16:10","modified_gmt":"2008-10-25T03:16:10","slug":"religion-and-spirituality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/24\/religion-and-spirituality\/","title":{"rendered":"Religion and Spirituality"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got into a huge debate today about the distinction between religion and spirituality, and the relative worth of the two concepts.<\/p>\n<p>Instead of boring you with more of my cocky atheism, I&#8217;ll just quote a Zen story that I think captures the whole thing:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>The Real Miracle<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When Bankei was preaching at Ryumon temple, a Shinshu priest, who believed in salvation through repetition of the name of the Buddha of Love, was jealous of his large audience and wanted to debate with him.<\/p>\n<p>Bankei was in the midst of a talk when the priest appeared, but the fellow made such a disturbance that Bankei stopped his discourse and asked about the noise.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The founder of our sect,&#8221; boasted the priest, &#8220;had such miraculous powers that he held a brush in his hand on one bank of the river, his attendant held up a paper on the other bank, and the teacher wrote the holy name of Amida through the air. Can you do such a wonderful thing?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Bankei replied lightly: &#8220;Perhaps your fox can perform that trick, but that is not the manner of Zen. My miracle is that when I feel hungry I eat, and when I feel thirsty I drink.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If that doesn&#8217;t make it clear, allow me to direct you to <a href=\"http:\/\/uk.youtube.com\/watch?v=aQcVStPxcnE\">the most concise statement<\/a> of what I mean, made by &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Bob_Geldof#Awards_and_honours\">Bob, KBE<\/a>&#8220;. (The linked video is a memorial, which isn&#8217;t part of my point&#8211;I just was linking to YouTube hosting the song&#8211;but which doesn&#8217;t hurt it either.) <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p class=\"excerpt\">I got into a huge debate today about the distinction between religion and spirituality, and the relative worth of the two concepts. Instead of boring you with more of my cocky atheism, I&#8217;ll just quote a Zen story that I think captures the whole thing: The Real Miracle When Bankei was preaching at Ryumon temple, a Shinshu priest, who believed&hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/2008\/10\/24\/religion-and-spirituality\/\">Read more &rarr;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[5],"tags":[123,107,343],"class_list":["post-1745","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-storytime","tag-life","tag-religion","tag-spirituality","xfolkentry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p5UQvw-s9","_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1745","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1745"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1745\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1746,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1745\/revisions\/1746"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1745"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1745"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.chrismclaren.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1745"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}