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	<title>Comments on: Gravatars &#038; Identicons</title>
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	<description>As honest as a gambling man can be</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: imworlds</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-51336</link>
		<dc:creator>imworlds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanted to see my identicon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wanted to see my identicon!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil MacFarlane</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50458</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil MacFarlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet, mine is a marijuana-crafted ninja-throwing star. Which, strangely, is what I would have designed it to be anyways. Huzzah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet, mine is a marijuana-crafted ninja-throwing star. Which, strangely, is what I would have designed it to be anyways. Huzzah!</p>
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		<title>By: Neil MacFarlane</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50457</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil MacFarlane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always related more to the Indenticons that the Autobots, personally. Any alliance with humans is doomed to failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always related more to the Indenticons that the Autobots, personally. Any alliance with humans is doomed to failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously?

I've always liked the idea of the icon-as-avatar for a discussion, and feel that it adds to the sense of community about a discussion, but always avoided it because:

1) local avatar systems are a pain-in-the-ass with low incentive for commentors to setup, and there wasn't a global system with the breadth of adoption to make using it worth it.
2) global systems add additional points-of-failure and load time to pages

When the Wordpress guys bought gravatar.com and did a bunch of work to make it supa-fast, I got interested. And, of course, the native support in WP does suggest that there will be a large pool of active commentors in the world who will have already set it up. That sort of mitigated against my concerns.

Then, when they rolled in the Identicon stuff, I had to do it because that kind of algorithmic shit fascinates me.

Mostly, though, I did it to mess with YOU.

(Did you see what your identicon was going to be, btw? It's a pretty cool red one: &lt;img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/322e0b3fd8993de5580a688233c810dd?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true" alt="Biff's identifcon" /&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always liked the idea of the icon-as-avatar for a discussion, and feel that it adds to the sense of community about a discussion, but always avoided it because:</p>
<p>1) local avatar systems are a pain-in-the-ass with low incentive for commentors to setup, and there wasn&#8217;t a global system with the breadth of adoption to make using it worth it.<br />
2) global systems add additional points-of-failure and load time to pages</p>
<p>When the Wordpress guys bought gravatar.com and did a bunch of work to make it supa-fast, I got interested. And, of course, the native support in WP does suggest that there will be a large pool of active commentors in the world who will have already set it up. That sort of mitigated against my concerns.</p>
<p>Then, when they rolled in the Identicon stuff, I had to do it because that kind of algorithmic shit fascinates me.</p>
<p>Mostly, though, I did it to mess with YOU.</p>
<p>(Did you see what your identicon was going to be, btw? It&#8217;s a pretty cool red one: <img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/322e0b3fd8993de5580a688233c810dd?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true" alt="Biff's identifcon" />.)</p>
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		<title>By: Biff</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50377</link>
		<dc:creator>Biff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gravatars, really?  Of all the Social networking, Web 2.0, rich internet application crap out there, you pick gravatars?  What the heck?
...of course I created one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gravatars, really?  Of all the Social networking, Web 2.0, rich internet application crap out there, you pick gravatars?  What the heck?<br />
&#8230;of course I created one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perseverance. An important quality in a writer!

(Also in a ditch-digger, but that's neither here nor there.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perseverance. An important quality in a writer!</p>
<p>(Also in a ditch-digger, but that&#8217;s neither here nor there.)</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50298</link>
		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Success!</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50297</link>
		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe now?</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50296</link>
		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. I guess that didn't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. I guess that didn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50295</link>
		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, am I still a cyan swastika?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, am I still a cyan swastika?</p>
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		<title>By: Gwenda</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50258</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwenda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As soon as I get time, I'm going to find random block images and just keep changing them out as my avatar--is it the machine, or it me? You don't know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As soon as I get time, I&#8217;m going to find random block images and just keep changing them out as my avatar&#8211;is it the machine, or it me? You don&#8217;t know!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50251</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It appears to be working.

Of course, you had an Identicon before, it just didn't suggest anything to me--it looked like this: &lt;img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c1c0af266cb39a39dd0b37e22ea9d30c?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true"/&gt;

Also, just for fun I checked what mine would have been--it's actually pretty cool: &lt;img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7152570af51e903fb62fbfdb7432954a?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true"/&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to be working.</p>
<p>Of course, you had an Identicon before, it just didn&#8217;t suggest anything to me&#8211;it looked like this: <img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/c1c0af266cb39a39dd0b37e22ea9d30c?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true"/></p>
<p>Also, just for fun I checked what mine would have been&#8211;it&#8217;s actually pretty cool: <img src="http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/7152570af51e903fb62fbfdb7432954a?s=40&#038;d=identicon&#038;r=R&#038;forcedefault=true"/></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50249</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose I'm just testing to see if my avatar works. Although I feel vaguely disappointed not to have a generic abstract Identicon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose I&#8217;m just testing to see if my avatar works. Although I feel vaguely disappointed not to have a generic abstract Identicon.</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50248</link>
		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyan? The swastika had an honorable history and should be reclaimed from the Nazis, but cyan?

Well, when I have more time I may tweak things--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyan? The swastika had an honorable history and should be reclaimed from the Nazis, but cyan?</p>
<p>Well, when I have more time I may tweak things&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50245</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I thought of that Richard--the algorithm is there, so it should be pretty easy to go from desired image to "hash that creates it". Of course, then you're into a rainbow tables problem to get back to the email.

And yes, Alex, your visage is now visible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I thought of that Richard&#8211;the algorithm is there, so it should be pretty easy to go from desired image to &#8220;hash that creates it&#8221;. Of course, then you&#8217;re into a rainbow tables problem to get back to the email.</p>
<p>And yes, Alex, your visage is now visible.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50244</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buzz-sawish no more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buzz-sawish no more?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard B.</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50243</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I just want to game the system and post a bunch of comments for various email addresses. But I suppose I should stick with this one, which I see as "fragments of a delicious chocolate bar" but I'm open to other interpretations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I just want to game the system and post a bunch of comments for various email addresses. But I suppose I should stick with this one, which I see as &#8220;fragments of a delicious chocolate bar&#8221; but I&#8217;m open to other interpretations.</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2008/04/23/gravatars-identicons/#comment-50241</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alex, buzz-saw, hmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alex, buzz-saw, hmm</p>
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