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	<title>Comments on: Maybe There&#8217;s A Reason We Associate Wisdom With Age</title>
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	<description>As honest as a gambling man can be</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2007/11/20/maybe-theres-a-reason-we-associate-wisdom-with-age/#comment-45545</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 06:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did better than I did--it took me until the 'lilies on water' to notice what was happening. And I spent a lot of time at that big Monet exhibit the Art Institute of Chicago did back in the mid-90s, so I have no excuse. That was quite a show--over 150 pieces (including an entire room specially constructed to present the water lily paintings are a 360-degree panorama)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did better than I did&#8211;it took me until the &#8216;lilies on water&#8217; to notice what was happening. And I spent a lot of time at that big Monet exhibit the Art Institute of Chicago did back in the mid-90s, so I have no excuse. That was quite a show&#8211;over 150 pieces (including an entire room specially constructed to present the water lily paintings are a 360-degree panorama)!</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. I'd just gone and found 'In November' and decided I had to collect that one too. Hmm, she's sounding buyable now.

'Wisteria separate from the bridge' was where I clicked it was Monet - I was very good and resisted the temptation to go straight to the end and check first.

I'm glad you're a fan! All this poetry-collecting is work-avoiding on the novel. I'll be glad to get back to short stories for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. I&#8217;d just gone and found &#8216;In November&#8217; and decided I had to collect that one too. Hmm, she&#8217;s sounding buyable now.</p>
<p>&#8216;Wisteria separate from the bridge&#8217; was where I clicked it was Monet - I was very good and resisted the temptation to go straight to the end and check first.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re a fan! All this poetry-collecting is work-avoiding on the novel. I&#8217;ll be glad to get back to short stories for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2007/11/20/maybe-theres-a-reason-we-associate-wisdom-with-age/#comment-45538</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 04:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Margo. Glad to see you here. I'm quite a fan of &lt;a href="http://www.sfsite.com/06a/la153.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;White Time&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.sfsite.com/06a/bj225.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Black Juice&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href="http://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2007/05/red_spikes_by_m.shtml" rel="nofollow"&gt;Red Spikes&lt;/a&gt;--links for the benefit of other readers who don't know why I'm going all fanboy here--and I keep an eye (well, an RSS reader) on &lt;a href="http://www.amongamidwhile.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amid Among While&lt;/a&gt;. Hell, you're in &lt;a href="http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/?s=lanagan" rel="nofollow"&gt;a bunch of posts&lt;/a&gt; here. &#60;/fanboy&#62;

Anyway, the first Lisa Mueller I ran into was one called "In November". Here, I'll put the text in here:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In November 
by Lisa Mueller

Outside the house the wind is howling
and the trees are creaking horribly.
This is an old story
with its old beginning,
as I lay me down to sleep.
But when I wake up, sunlight
has taken over the room.
You have already made the coffee
and the radio brings us music
from a confident age. In the paper
bad news is set in distant places.
Whatever was bound to happen
in my story did not happen.
But I know there are rules that cannot be broken.
Perhaps a name was changed.
A small mistake. Perhaps
a woman I do not know
is facing the day with the heavy heart
that, by all rights, should have been mine.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's the one I was referring to above when I said "That’s the second time a Lisa Mueller poem has almost knocked me over by turning out, on closer inspection. to be very different than my first experience of it". 

The first time I read &lt;em&gt;In November&lt;/em&gt; I hadn't noticed the poet's name and automatically assumed it was a man (for whatever reason, whatever that says about me). As you can imagine, the meaning of the entire poem--particularly the last bit, obviously, but the entire thing since the end bits send ripples of meaning back through the whole piece--is different if the speaker is a man or woman. When I noticed the author was a woman, then I changed my perspective to that of a female speaker, which changed the whole thing.

It was searching for more work after that which caused me to run into the poem in the post. I plan to search for more, for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Margo. Glad to see you here. I&#8217;m quite a fan of <a href="http://www.sfsite.com/06a/la153.htm" rel="nofollow">White Time</a>, <a href="http://www.sfsite.com/06a/bj225.htm" rel="nofollow">Black Juice</a>, and <a href="http://www.strangehorizons.com/reviews/2007/05/red_spikes_by_m.shtml" rel="nofollow">Red Spikes</a>&#8211;links for the benefit of other readers who don&#8217;t know why I&#8217;m going all fanboy here&#8211;and I keep an eye (well, an RSS reader) on <a href="http://www.amongamidwhile.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Amid Among While</a>. Hell, you&#8217;re in <a href="http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/?s=lanagan" rel="nofollow">a bunch of posts</a> here. &lt;/fanboy&gt;</p>
<p>Anyway, the first Lisa Mueller I ran into was one called &#8220;In November&#8221;. Here, I&#8217;ll put the text in here:</p>
<blockquote><p>In November<br />
by Lisa Mueller</p>
<p>Outside the house the wind is howling<br />
and the trees are creaking horribly.<br />
This is an old story<br />
with its old beginning,<br />
as I lay me down to sleep.<br />
But when I wake up, sunlight<br />
has taken over the room.<br />
You have already made the coffee<br />
and the radio brings us music<br />
from a confident age. In the paper<br />
bad news is set in distant places.<br />
Whatever was bound to happen<br />
in my story did not happen.<br />
But I know there are rules that cannot be broken.<br />
Perhaps a name was changed.<br />
A small mistake. Perhaps<br />
a woman I do not know<br />
is facing the day with the heavy heart<br />
that, by all rights, should have been mine.
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<p>That&#8217;s the one I was referring to above when I said &#8220;That’s the second time a Lisa Mueller poem has almost knocked me over by turning out, on closer inspection. to be very different than my first experience of it&#8221;. </p>
<p>The first time I read <em>In November</em> I hadn&#8217;t noticed the poet&#8217;s name and automatically assumed it was a man (for whatever reason, whatever that says about me). As you can imagine, the meaning of the entire poem&#8211;particularly the last bit, obviously, but the entire thing since the end bits send ripples of meaning back through the whole piece&#8211;is different if the speaker is a man or woman. When I noticed the author was a woman, then I changed my perspective to that of a female speaker, which changed the whole thing.</p>
<p>It was searching for more work after that which caused me to run into the poem in the post. I plan to search for more, for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2007/11/20/maybe-theres-a-reason-we-associate-wisdom-with-age/#comment-45537</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 03:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is one gorgeous poem, Chris. I will (a) snitch it for my Other People's Poetry collection and (b) track down more of this poet's work.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is one gorgeous poem, Chris. I will (a) snitch it for my Other People&#8217;s Poetry collection and (b) track down more of this poet&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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