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	<description>As honest as a gambling man can be</description>
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		<title>By: Homo Sum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Really Old Books In The News</title>
		<link>http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2007/08/27/i-think-id-rather-be-outside-the-tent-pissing-in/#comment-44479</link>
		<dc:creator>Homo Sum &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Really Old Books In The News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just know I&#8217;m going to find a way to mix this thing into my &#8220;Dogs and Sorcerers&#8221; story, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, I sure do love Bertie. That's some acerbic stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, I sure do love Bertie. That&#8217;s some acerbic stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 03:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tangentially, but still in the spirit of making fun of the Bible, here are some funnies by Chris' hero Mr. Russell from his autobiography:

What a queer work the Bible is.  Abraham (who is a pattern of all the virtues) twice over, when he is going abroad, says to his wife:  'Sarah my dear, you are a very good-looking person, and the King is very likely to fall in love with you.  If he thinks I am your husband, he will put me to death, so as to be able to marry you; so you shall travel as my sister, which you are, by the way.'  On each occasion the King does fall in love with her, takes her into his harem, and gets diseased in consequence, so he returns her to Abraham.  Meanwhile Abraham has a child by a maidservant, whom Sarah dismisses into the wilderness with the new-born infant, without Abraham objecting.  Rum tale.

And God has talks with Abraham at intervals, giving shrewd worldly advice.  Then later when Moses begs to see God, God allows him to see his 'hind parts'.  There is a terrible fuss, thunder and whirlwind and all the paraphernalia, and then all God has to say is that he wants the Jews to eat unleavened bread at the Passover - he says this over and over again, like an old gentlemen in his dotage.  Queer book.

Some of the texts are &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; funny.  Deut. XXIV, 5:  'When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.'  I should never have guessed 'cheer up' was a Biblical expression.  Here is another really inspiring text:  'Cursed be he that lieth with his mother-in-law.  And all the people shall say, Amen.'  St. Paul on marriage:  'I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.  But if they cannot contain, let them marry:  for it is better to marry than to burn.'  This has remained the doctrine of the Church to this day.  It is clear that the Divine purpose in the text 'it is better to marry than to burn' is to make us all feel how &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; dreadful the torments of Hell must be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tangentially, but still in the spirit of making fun of the Bible, here are some funnies by Chris&#8217; hero Mr. Russell from his autobiography:</p>
<p>What a queer work the Bible is.  Abraham (who is a pattern of all the virtues) twice over, when he is going abroad, says to his wife:  &#8216;Sarah my dear, you are a very good-looking person, and the King is very likely to fall in love with you.  If he thinks I am your husband, he will put me to death, so as to be able to marry you; so you shall travel as my sister, which you are, by the way.&#8217;  On each occasion the King does fall in love with her, takes her into his harem, and gets diseased in consequence, so he returns her to Abraham.  Meanwhile Abraham has a child by a maidservant, whom Sarah dismisses into the wilderness with the new-born infant, without Abraham objecting.  Rum tale.</p>
<p>And God has talks with Abraham at intervals, giving shrewd worldly advice.  Then later when Moses begs to see God, God allows him to see his &#8216;hind parts&#8217;.  There is a terrible fuss, thunder and whirlwind and all the paraphernalia, and then all God has to say is that he wants the Jews to eat unleavened bread at the Passover - he says this over and over again, like an old gentlemen in his dotage.  Queer book.</p>
<p>Some of the texts are <em>very</em> funny.  Deut. XXIV, 5:  &#8216;When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: but he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.&#8217;  I should never have guessed &#8216;cheer up&#8217; was a Biblical expression.  Here is another really inspiring text:  &#8216;Cursed be he that lieth with his mother-in-law.  And all the people shall say, Amen.&#8217;  St. Paul on marriage:  &#8216;I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.  But if they cannot contain, let them marry:  for it is better to marry than to burn.&#8217;  This has remained the doctrine of the Church to this day.  It is clear that the Divine purpose in the text &#8216;it is better to marry than to burn&#8217; is to make us all feel how <em>very</em> dreadful the torments of Hell must be.</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
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		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if I neglected to say so earlier, nice story! Now start that novel!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if I neglected to say so earlier, nice story! Now start that novel!</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
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		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 01:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for snipping those bits! I didn't remember that the second was there (though it was clearly implied). Now I wonder if that's where I first encountered my philosophy.

Hmm. And it occurs to me now that one of the oldest names for Jesus's teaching, the way, could also be translated as the road. I think most of my favorite people are part of the Church of the Road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for snipping those bits! I didn&#8217;t remember that the second was there (though it was clearly implied). Now I wonder if that&#8217;s where I first encountered my philosophy.</p>
<p>Hmm. And it occurs to me now that one of the oldest names for Jesus&#8217;s teaching, the way, could also be translated as the road. I think most of my favorite people are part of the Church of the Road.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found &lt;a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com/msg01906.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;a copy online&lt;/a&gt;.

I assume you're referring to this bit:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Here they were: the drunks and the sinners, the gambling men and the grifters, the big-time spenders, the skirt chasers, and all the jolly crew. They knew where they were going, of course, but they didn't seem to be particularly concerned at the moment. The blinds were drawn on the windows, yet it was light inside, and they were all sitting around and singing and passing the bottle and laughing it up, telling their jokes and bragging their brags, just the way Daddy used to sing about them in the old song.

"Mighty nice traveling companions," Martin said. "Why, I've never seen such a pleasant bunch of people. I mean, they seem to be really enjoying themselves!"&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I like it.

Of course, I also like this, which touches &lt;a href="http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2005/12/12/a-tale-of-process-enlightenment/" rel="nofollow"&gt;one of my personal philosophies&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"Do you realize what you've done?" the conductor panted. "Now we'll never reach the Depot. We'll just go on riding, all of us, forever and ever!"

Martin grinned. "I know," he said. "But the fun is in the trip, not the destination. You taught me that. And I'm looking forward to a wonderful trip."&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found <a href="http://www.mail-archive.com/scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com/msg01906.html" rel="nofollow">a copy online</a>.</p>
<p>I assume you&#8217;re referring to this bit:</p>
<blockquote><p>Here they were: the drunks and the sinners, the gambling men and the grifters, the big-time spenders, the skirt chasers, and all the jolly crew. They knew where they were going, of course, but they didn&#8217;t seem to be particularly concerned at the moment. The blinds were drawn on the windows, yet it was light inside, and they were all sitting around and singing and passing the bottle and laughing it up, telling their jokes and bragging their brags, just the way Daddy used to sing about them in the old song.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mighty nice traveling companions,&#8221; Martin said. &#8220;Why, I&#8217;ve never seen such a pleasant bunch of people. I mean, they seem to be really enjoying themselves!&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I like it.</p>
<p>Of course, I also like this, which touches <a href="http://www.chrismclaren.com/blog/2005/12/12/a-tale-of-process-enlightenment/" rel="nofollow">one of my personal philosophies</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Do you realize what you&#8217;ve done?&#8221; the conductor panted. &#8220;Now we&#8217;ll never reach the Depot. We&#8217;ll just go on riding, all of us, forever and ever!&#8221;</p>
<p>Martin grinned. &#8220;I know,&#8221; he said. &#8220;But the fun is in the trip, not the destination. You taught me that. And I&#8217;m looking forward to a wonderful trip.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
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		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, you're misremembering it. It's short. Find it!

(I confess, I'm a bit afraid to reread it, because I don't know what I'll think of Bloch's style now. But purely on the story level, it's great.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, you&#8217;re misremembering it. It&#8217;s short. Find it!</p>
<p>(I confess, I&#8217;m a bit afraid to reread it, because I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;ll think of Bloch&#8217;s style now. But purely on the story level, it&#8217;s great.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. McLaren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. McLaren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a vague recollection of the story--that's the one about the guy who gets to stop time in his perfect moment, but he never finds it in his life, and then ends up stopping it on his "gallows ride" as 'twere? Or something like that?

What's the connection? That the perfect moment might be partying with a bunch of convicts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a vague recollection of the story&#8211;that&#8217;s the one about the guy who gets to stop time in his perfect moment, but he never finds it in his life, and then ends up stopping it on his &#8220;gallows ride&#8221; as &#8217;twere? Or something like that?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the connection? That the perfect moment might be partying with a bunch of convicts?</p>
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		<title>By: will shetterly</title>
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		<dc:creator>will shetterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent novel title! Write it!

And craft is over-rated. Understanding point of view is nice, but that really just boils down to focus on one character in each scene. All you really have to have is a beginning, a middle, and an end, and you don't need those in the first draft. Now get writing!

Also, you have read Bloch's "The Hell-Bound Train," yes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent novel title! Write it!</p>
<p>And craft is over-rated. Understanding point of view is nice, but that really just boils down to focus on one character in each scene. All you really have to have is a beginning, a middle, and an end, and you don&#8217;t need those in the first draft. Now get writing!</p>
<p>Also, you have read Bloch&#8217;s &#8220;The Hell-Bound Train,&#8221; yes?</p>
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