Science Fiction Authors Say Smart Things: Brust on Thinkin’

Some days Steven Brust does a brilliant job of charmingly and knowingly talking a lot of bunk. Hell, I’ve seen him do it in a costume with a cheesy, fake accent, and that’s like the black diamond trail of bunk-talkin’.
Today is not one of those days. Today he hits it straight down the middle with precision. He’s good at that too.
I know it’s kind of outside of netiquette to quote a whole post, but you need to see it all, and it’s short. From Steve’s LJ:
I hope I never reach the point of saying, or believing, that there is something wrong with someone merely because he doesn’t undertake a serious study of philosophy.
But.
In my post last week in which I was joking about philosophy, there were a couple replies that reflected the too-common attitude that anyone who studies this stuff is wasting his time. Let me try to be as clear about this as possible: You, whoever you are, have a method for analyzing data and a set of assumptions. If you have never seriously studied the history of philosophy, and examined epistemology carefully, that means you are not aware of what yours is. In that case, odds are close to 100% that if you were confronted with your method and assumptions, you would find that you didn’t agree with them; that the way you are looking at the world is one that, in fact, you would think was wrong if it were explained to you. Which leaves you in an oddly embarrassing position, doesn’t it?
Does that mean I think everyone needs to study this stuff? Fuck no. What it means is that not studying philosophy is nothing to be smug about.
There are also some telling exchanges down in the comments, of which my favourite bit is this:
If you were to say that you’re not convinced that a person that hadn’t studied physics was capable of introducing important advances into physics, well, people would laugh. It’s be funny.
The philosophical techniques that can be brought to bear on questions are far, far superior to ancient techniques. Philosophy, like all endeavors humans stick at, has improved.
So, by the way, have the indoctrination techniques of society, requiring an ever more sophisticated system of thought to understand and defend oneself against them. So muddied have the waters of our education and perception become, due to the massive increase of data (much of it propaganda) that we take in that, yeah, if you haven’t studied philosophy you probably have no clue what your epistemology is.
Yeah, that whole “on the shoulders of giants” thing wasn’t just a height joke, you know?
(At times like this it occurs to me just how lucky I have been in that I was exposed both academically, and in my fun reading, to a view of the history of philosophy as an ongoing debate, with each new position or major figure needing to be understood not just on their face, but also in relation to all that had come before.)


March 27th, 2007 at 1:01 am
I completely agree that studying philosophy is worthwhile. With regards to the physics analogy, however, I do remember a point we discussed in a philosophy class I took in college. Aristotle’s work on philosophy remains instructive to philosophy students today, but his work on physics is of essentially no use to physics students today. Philosophy has made a lot of progress over the millenia, but it’s qualitatively different from the progress made in the sciences.
March 27th, 2007 at 9:29 am
Hi Ted. Always glad to see a comment from you.
Isn’t that qualitative difference grounded in the fact that physics (and all the hard sciences) are working within a much more narrowly defined epistemology now than they were back in the day? The way that Artistotle arrived at his conclusions in physics would now not pass the common (at least I hope it’s common, although frankly both ‘intelligent design’ and some of the debate around global warming make me worry) standard for scientific fact.
March 27th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
Yes, I would agree with that. Scientific inquiry underwent a philosophical shift that enabled it to subsequently make rapid progress. I think that there have been attempts to do something similar with philosophy itself — logical positivism, for example — but they haven’t met with much success.
It might have be interesting if they had succeeded; I envision philosophers being able to say things like, “The morality of abortion has been conclusively determined,” and have everyone actually agree that it had. The fact that philosophy hasn’t provided answers like that is, I think, why some people feel that philosophy is just spinning its wheels.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:13 pm
You know, there are certain frameworks in which you could make those conclusive statements.
The problem is that working within those frameworks you can’t say anything about the relative validity of the frameworks.
I’d be happy though if we could just train everyone to understand the axioms and “invisible” premises that underlay their own frameworks.